One point I would like to add.
If the non-reporting of a serious crime is in itself a crime, then there are an awful lot of criminal elders withing the organization.
knowing that many here like to relate information as accurately as possible i just wanted to make a clarification regarding the unreported abusers in the australian jw religion.. it is not correct for us to state that there are 1,006 cases of unreported abusers in australia since 1950. .
this is what the commission has reported in the opening address .
those documents include 1,006 case files relating to allegations of child sexual abuse made against members of the jehovahs witness church in australia since 1950 each file for a different alleged perpetrator of child sexual abuse.
One point I would like to add.
If the non-reporting of a serious crime is in itself a crime, then there are an awful lot of criminal elders withing the organization.
sorry i have to remain completely anonymous about this but you will see why.
i have first hand knowledge that geoffrey jackson of the governing body is staying with his parents in toowoomba, queensland for the next few weeks.
he has already been in australia for a couple of weeks.
well another big bad elder here just wanting to say sorry.. i'm sorry that so many were treated like crap, and shown that god's love is not to be found around jehovah's witnesses.
i'm sorry that inadvertently i've likely taught many to judge and as such see that racism permeates every corner of the jw world, else why else would someone be of the world, or even inactive.
i'm sorry i sat in on a jc, and voted to df.
soliciting any and all opinions.
as some of you may know, wife is full in pioneer.
my fade has gone from us fighting.
it was a simple question: isn't jesus my "mediator" if i put faith in him like the scriptures say?
the research to that answer, from the w79 4/1 p. 31, was mind blowing.
how dare they deny me a belief firmly stated in the scriptures?
the elders did not stay long and it wasn`t an official visit sanctioned by the boe/cobe because they were not from my (ex)congregation.
we talked a little about my situation and the fact that my wife does not talk to me and how non-scriptural her behavior is.. then they mentioned the rc and how it was the best convention for the last 20 years.
one thing they did mention was the fact that the borg was clearly preparing them for persecution.
Searcher
I only let them in because they were not from my (ex)congregation.
Heaven / Punk
I did say the every convention is better than the one before, and you can guess the answer, "But this one really was".
galaxie
I know what you mean, I fell for that too.
the elders did not stay long and it wasn`t an official visit sanctioned by the boe/cobe because they were not from my (ex)congregation.
we talked a little about my situation and the fact that my wife does not talk to me and how non-scriptural her behavior is.. then they mentioned the rc and how it was the best convention for the last 20 years.
one thing they did mention was the fact that the borg was clearly preparing them for persecution.
Punk
Company men methinks!
You are probably right on that, but as my fade is new, this is giving me experience in reasoning with them without exposing my apostate attitudes.
the elders did not stay long and it wasn`t an official visit sanctioned by the boe/cobe because they were not from my (ex)congregation.
we talked a little about my situation and the fact that my wife does not talk to me and how non-scriptural her behavior is.. then they mentioned the rc and how it was the best convention for the last 20 years.
one thing they did mention was the fact that the borg was clearly preparing them for persecution.
The Elders did not stay long and it wasn`t an official visit sanctioned by the BOE/COBE because they were not from my (ex)congregation. We talked a little about my situation and the fact that my wife does not talk to me and how non-scriptural her behavior is.
Then they mentioned the RC and how it was the best convention for the last 20 years. One thing they did mention was the fact that the bOrg was clearly preparing them for persecution. I did not attend the RC, and I will never again attend any, but did anybody else who did attend notice this aspect?
I brought up a controversial subject, that of Child Baptism and disfellowshipping of teenagers. One of the Elders was of the opinion that if a baptized teenager does something and gets themselves disfellowshiped it is their own fault, at this I wanted to kick him in the balls, but I resisted the temptation. The argument from my side that a teenager needs every support they can get did not interest him. Anyway both Elders are completely against children and teenagers getting baptized, which is very positive and one even went as far as saying that if his SIL coerces any of his grandchildren into getting baptized, then he would go ballistic, again something positive. So apparently the latest push on the part of the bOrg leadership to have young ones baptized, doe not appear to be having a positive affect.
I wanted to talk about TOMOs rant on child abuse, but they had to leave.
was talking to an ex-bethelite who is still very well-connected to those in the ivory tower.. he says that there will soon be a(nother) large number of us bethelites who will be "reassigned to the field" as pioneers and special pioneers.. he did not give his source, but he is pretty reliable.
incidentally, he was "reassigned to the field" in the last big purge about 7 years ago.. i imagine those so reassigned would be pretty teed off.
let go just before the golden lakeshore palace was completed..
sparrowdown
please God send us a Bethel Edward Snowden.
that gave me a good giggle.
well there are lots of reason for sure, denial, delusion, wishful thinking, ego maniac, infantile understanding of ancient writings, satanophobia, xenophobia, out of touch with reality, limited choices scrapping the bottom of the barrel,and many more.. listen to this ted talk and see if you can pick out something that helps explain why these guys are such ass holes:.
organizations are often run according to the superchicken model, where the value is placed on star employees who outperform others.
and yet, this isnt what drives the most high-achieving teams.
Tim310rd
I know that since waking up I have also noticed how my thinking ability was handicapped and not just in all things JW.
Thats a very good statement and I see that with myself also.